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CNN LARRY KING LIVE
The Power of Positive Thoughts
Aired November 2, 2006 - 21:00 ET
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
LARRY KING, CNN HOST: Tonight,
unhappy with your love, your job, your life, not
enough money? Use your head. You can think
yourself into a lot better you. Positive thoughts
can transform can attract the good things you know
you want. Sound far-fetched? Think again. It's
supported by science.
Ahead, an hour that can change the way you think
about the world and alter your life forever. It's
next on LARRY KING LIVE.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
KING: Good evening.
A special edition of LARRY KING LIVE tonight;
we're calling the program beyond the power of
positive thinking, how to change your life, how to
use the power of your imagination, and mine, to
create what you want in your life.
Our guests can help you do that. They are Bob
Proctor, who went from high school dropout to
best-selling author. He spent the last 40 years
coaching individuals on how to attain their life
ambitions.
John Assaraf, as a teenager John risked the
potentially fatal consequences of a turbulent
lifestyle which could have easily landed him in
jail or the morgue. But today, he's written a "New
York Times" best-selling book and built four
multimillion dollar companies.
Michael Beckwith, founder and spiritual director
of the Agape International Spiritual Center, which
celebrates its 20 anniversary this fall.
John DeMartini, the founder of the DeMartini
Foundation and the Concourse of Wisdom School, one
of the world's largest personal and professional
development organizations.
And, JZ Knight, the (INAUDIBLE) member of our
group is CEO of JZ K. Inc. and author of her
autobiography "A State of Mind."
We'll start with Mr. Proctor. We're calling the
show the power of positive thinking. Define that
for me.
BOB PROCTOR, BEST-SELLING AUTHOR AND NETWORKING TIMES
PUBLISHER: Well, there is power to positive thinking if you
internalize it. I think there's a lot of misunderstanding
on it. People they think if they just think positive the
world's going to change.
It's not going to change. What they're going to do
is heighten their frustration because they're
looking for change and it doesn't happen. We think
on our conscious mind, on a conscious level. It's
our educated mind but it's the subconscious mind
that's controlling the vibration we're in,
controlling the results we're getting.
So, if the positive thinking is going to change
our life, we've got to internalize those positive
thoughts, not the easiest thing to do but you can
do it.
KING: How do you harness that, John Assaraf?
JOHN ASSARAF, CO-FOUNDER, ONECOACH: I think you've
got to make a decision, Larry, you know. We've got
two choices to make with whatever the situation
is. Number one, it could be negative or it could
be positive. Our choice is what makes the biggest
difference in all of the equation is making the
choice to look at something positively, even
though the negative side is there. I think that's
what we have to do.
KING: Michael Beckwith, was Dr. Norman Vincent
Peale's famous book, "The Power of Positive
Thinking," was that too pedestrian?
REV. MICHAEL BECKWITH, FOUNDER, AGAPE
INTERNATIONAL SPIRITUAL CENTER: Well, I didn't
read that for a number of years. I entered into
this way of teaching because I had a spiritual
awakening and began to see that we were surrounded
by a presence, an energy, a life force, call it
God, call it the divine energy.
KING: He called it God, right?
BECKWITH: Yes. And that through that immersion
into that awareness I began to see that, yes,
there is power in your thinking but it's not
positive thinking. You know you could be positive
that you're broke. You can be positive that you're
rich.
So it's really, I call it affirmative thinking,
having an affirmative realization that the nature
of the universe is good and when you surrender to
it, when you align yourself with it, when you
embody, as Bob Proctor was talking about, as you
internalize it, then your life begins to change.
KING: You're saying, John DeMartini that this is
doable?
JOHN DEMARTINI, FOUNDER, DEMARTINI FOUNDATION: Not
only is it doable but we do it every day because
what happens is the quality of our life is based
on the quality of the questions we ask and it's
not what happens to us on the outside. It's how we
ask questions and filter it and perceive it on the
inside.
And so, we have an event and we ask how is that
event that we think is so terrible, how does it
serve us and how does it help us fulfill what is
really most important to our life? Then what
happens is we transform through the perception of
that action into an opportunity that we can now
use as a resource for our life. KING: Where do you
learn this, Ms. Knight?
JZ KNIGHT, RAMTHA'S SCHOOL OF ENLIGHTENMENT: I
don't subscribe to positive thinking because that
would suggest that we're all negative and the
connotation of negative is that we're all bad. And
it's difficult enough to survive in the world and
have self-esteem without thinking that you have to
think positive because you're already bad.
KING: What do you call it?
KNIGHT: I call it being wonderful.
KING: What's the law of attraction, Bob?
PROCTOR: The law of attraction is based on the law
of vibration. The whole universe operates by laws.
Dr. Werhner von Braun said that the laws are so
precise that we don't have any difficult building
spaceships, sending people to the moon and you can
time the landing with the precision of a fraction
of a second. But, attraction and vibration are
hooked together. The vibration we're in is
determined by the ideas that you're emotionally
involved with.
KING: And how do you grab that, Michael?
BECKWITH: You need to have a vision for your life.
Most of the time people are concentrating on what
they don't want to happen. They can articulate it
very well. "I hope this never happens to me." And
when you ask the average person they don't know
exactly what they want. They cannot describe a
reality they want to live in.
Now when you begin to describe it and begin to
generate those kind of feelings that you're
already living in it, the universe will compel you
into right action. You'll begin to do things
differently.
KING: Dr. DeMartini, does this apply to the law of
physics? Are we talking about something that you
could look it up in a book?
DEMARTINI: Yes, actually, because what happens
just like in the law of life and the law of
physics, just like a magnet has two sides and if
you try to get rid of one side of the magnet, the
negative side, it keeps following you. You always
have two sides. So, you have to be able to take
both sides and use them to your advantage.
KING: JZ if the day is cloudy or rainy and we're
bothered by that we're determining to be bothered
by that right?
KNIGHT: Absolutely. Absolutely.
KING: We're making it. If rain ain't doing it,
we're doing it.
KNIGHT: We're doing it. We are creating the nature
of our reality by what we choose, how we choose to
think about our life and the outside world.
KING: Coming up, wouldn't you like to be excited
about your day when you wake up instead of being
stressed? Find out how to make it possible next.
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BECKWITH: And from the very being, the nature of
your being, you must say "So what?" That's the
strongest affirmation that you'll ever hear.
When I was quite young attending college there
were two things going on simultaneously. One, I
was having a spiritual breakthrough, a spiritual
opening while, at the same time, I was ending a
career in selling marijuana.
The real miracle of living is when you're no
longer intoxicated by praise or depressed by
un-appreciation.
And, I just started crying. I just started sobbing
and I turned my life over to God, surrendered my
life to the universe, surrendered my life to love,
to be an instrument to bring about love and
harmony and peace, however the presence wanted to
use me. My life would be dedicated to that for the
rest of my life.
And if you begin to open up through your
affirmation so what! You'll begin to move into the
consciousness of what's so. So what contains the
what so.
There's a dimension of us that has never been
hurt, harmed, or endangered in any way and with
intention, with practice, with love, prayer,
meditation, you can uncover that dimension of your
life that has no beginning and has no end and let
it shine in this incarnation.
What is so? God has always loved you. What is so?
Wholeness is inside of your being. What is so?
Infinite supply surrounds you. What is so? It
doesn't matter who's in the White House. Who's in
your house? Who's in your house? Who's in your
house?
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
KING: We're back with this extraordinary panel and
we're learning how to make things better in our
lives. We can't do better than that for you.
Michael Beckwith, what are some simple steps a
person can do to change his or her own life?
BECKWITH: Well, first of all, when we think about
what reality is, we think about this unified field
of awareness that's everywhere that's operating
for us. So, what an individual has to do they have
to begin to have an inner talk of uplift, men of
inspiration of affirmation, begin to agree with
themselves that it can be better.
KING: Every day?
BECKWITH: Every single day. It has to be a
practice until that practice becomes a way of
life. KING: What do you do though, John Assaraf,
about bad events, I mean terrible events, your
house burns down?
ASSARAF: Yes. Everything that happens to us we
have a choice again of making a decision how we
perceive that and how we react to that. And we can
have our house burning right in front of us and
things could be devastating in front of us but our
decision to interpret that is what makes the
entire difference and we always have that choice.
KING: That seems, Bob, like a hard thing to learn.
PROCTOR: It is a hard thing to learn. And, I was
thinking as John was talking about it, I was
taking my mind back to when I was always focused
on what was wrong, the bad circumstances they
dominated my thinking. It took a long time to
change it.
I had Earl Nightingale's record. I played it over
and over and over again.
KING: (INAUDIBLE).
PROCTOR: Earl is a good friend. I worked with Earl
for five years in Chicago. But it was the
repetition of listening to that that changed it.
That's how it was programmed in the first place.
That's how it can be changed.
I think that JZ was mentioning the secret. There's
a movie "The Secret." If a person would keep
watching it over and over again they will
reprogram their mind.
KNIGHT: But also, if I may interject here, there
is a beauty that rises up in us, a greater mind
that rises up in it that comes to the surface that
is all beauty and originality.
KING: Are you saying you don't have bad days?
KNIGHT: I have bad days if I decide to feel sorry
for myself.
BECKWITH: When we begin to think in a particular
way it definitely overrides and transcends those
genetic...
PROCTOR: Your thoughts.
KNIGHT: Absolutely.
BECKWITH: And to grow in this way simply means
that we're eliminating the filters. We're
eliminating the obstructions. We're eliminating
the faulty beliefs. We're not adding anything to
us whatsoever. All spiritual growth and all growth
towards success or progress is an elimination of
that which is hindering.
ASSARAF: And we are genetically wired a certain
way and 50 percent of our propensity is the way we
think and behave are genetic in nature. Then we're
raised by the same people who gave us their
genetics. And so we get conditioned to believe and
think and behave consistently day in and day out.
We call it a self fulfilling doom that we get
into.
And the first part is awareness. The first part is
awareness that I don't have to live this way
anymore. I don't have to do this anymore. I don't
have to think this way anymore and become aware of
it. That's number one.
Then you set a new vision for yourself and
scientifically just the latest brain research
suggests that it takes at least 30 days of mental
reprogramming to start seeing the differentiation
between your old self and the new self.
KING: John DeMartini, one of the definitions of
insanity is repeating the same act expecting a
different result. If that's true, first of all,
half the globe is insane, right? We all have done
that.
DEMARTINI: Or asleep.
KING: Can you break that?
DEMARTINI: Yes. Every human being has a set of
values and through those values they filter their
reality. Whatever is highest on their value they
tend to bring discipline and order to and they
tend to focus on them spontaneously, innately.
Whatever is lowest on their value they tend to
have chaos around and disorder around. And, if
they're trying to set objectives that is not
really truly aligned to their highest values, they
tend to self defeat because they tend to
unconsciously keep creating what's really on their
value system. So, when you set objectives, if you
don't set them congruently and aligned with your
highest values, you tend to self defeat and have
negative self talk.
KING: But to change you have to want to change,
right?
DEMARTINI: You have to identify and set objectives
according to what's truly valuable to you, what's
truly inspiring to you, or you're automatically
going to have the feedback system called the
negative thought I think personally.
PROCTOR: I think all you have to do is become
aware that you can change. I didn't think I could
change.
KING: What changed you?
PROCTOR: "Think and Grow Rich," the book and Ray
Stanford, a guy that got me to read it and he
convinced me that I could do better than I was
doing. I think I believed in his belief in me. I
didn't believe in me. But he was so adamant that I
could do better and he said, "Just read the book
and do what it says." And I started to read it and
that's what led me into Earl's material, one thing
to another and I changed.
KING: What did you, Michael, what changed you?
BECKWITH: Well, in terms of change one of my
favorite statements is pain pushes you until the
vision pulls you. So, you grow in two ways either
through pain or through insight.
So, some people will get sick and tired of being
sick and tired and begin to make that decision,
begin to articulate a vision for their life, begin
to walk in that direction.
Others will have insight, an ah-hah will happen to
them and they'll see life in a much wider
perspective and then from that wider perspective
make a decision to begin to walk.
KING: Are we to blame, John, for most of the time
for what happens to us?
ASSARAF: Are we to blame? Well, we can blame other
people and that's the easy thing to do because we
can point the finger.
KING: That rat.
ASSARAF: Yes, we can just blame everybody else.
There are certain things that happen to us, Larry,
that are inconvenient that we don't like and we
can put blame on somebody else or ourselves. I
think we've got to take full responsibility for
our reality and how we approach anything that
happens to us.
BECKWITH: Absolutely.
KNIGHT: I agree.
PROCTOR: I don't think we're to be blamed. We're
not to be blamed for our programming but we're
responsible for changing it.
BECKWITH: Absolutely. Yes, I don't like to use the
word blame. No one is to blame but ignorance.
PROCTOR: That's right.
BECKWITH: Ignorance is the only thing that is to
blame. And once you enter into he awareness of
forgiveness releasing shame, blame, and regret,
you can change your life.
KING: John DeMartini, does it require brains?
DEMARTINI: You know I think...
KING: I mean you have to be smart to do this.
DEMARTINI: I think that it requires awareness.
BECKWITH: Right.
DEMARTINI: But I think the greatest awareness
occurs when we're grateful and our heart is open.
KING: Just ahead can you really wish for your soul
mate and find him? Our panel knows how to make it
happen. They'll share it with us next.
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PROCTOR: You know when a person has no hope they
are lost, absolutely lost. I was losing. I was
unhappy. I was sick. I was broke. I think I was
earning $4,000 a year and I owed $6,000.
For the first time I realized that I had choices.
I could choose what I wanted to do. Now it was
vague and I didn't have a whole lot of confidence
in it but I was starting to know it.
It took me nine years to figure out what I had
actually done to change but I found out something
interesting. Most people that are highly
successful cannot articulate on why they are.
If you don't make the hard decisions you have
wasted your time coming here. You know what the
decisions are. I don't know what they are for you
but you know what they are.
Positive thinking is nothing if you don't
internalize it and you don't internalize it once.
It's through repetition
It's your life. You only get one bite at the
apple. If you don't treat you right, who's going
to?
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
KING: OK, we'll start with John DeMartini in this.
How do you find the true love of your life?
DEMARTINI: Well, I'm going to say something that's
probably different than a lot of people. But I
really believe that we are actually surrounded by
it and it's either in one form, in one person, or
we diversified it to a group of people in our
lives but every single...
KING: Six soul mates?
DEMARTINI: Our soul mate. Every single thing that
we're searching for we unconsciously are creating
around us but sometimes if we've had extreme pain
associated with a relationship with one person we
diversify all the things that we like into people
around us.
KING: You've lost your wife, right?
DEMARTINI: Yes, my wife passed away about just
under two years ago.
KING: Now are you on a search?
DEMARTINI: Well, it's interesting. Six weeks
before she passed away she held my hand and she
looked me straight in the eyes and she said, "It's
now time to look for another star woman, another
star girl." Her name was Athena Starwoman.
And three weeks after she passed away, I ran into
a lovely woman named Star in Las Vegas. She
happens to be here today. And, if it wasn't for
her saying that, my former wife saying that, I
don't think I would have noticed it (INAUDIBLE).
KING: How do you find a soul mate, JZ?
KNIGHT: Well, a soul mate is equal to who we are,
so the first thing we have to do is fall in love
with ourselves. We have to like who we are.
Otherwise, if we don't, we're going to get
frequency specific with people in our life that...
KING: Bad choices.
KNIGHT: ...reflect back to ourselves. So, first
thing fall in love with yourself. Be to you what
you would love to have in another person.
BECKWITH: Absolutely.
KNIGHT: Then that person comes.
KING: Michael.
BECKWITH: What you're looking for you're looking
with and so as you begin, as JZ was talking about,
to really fall in love with and tap into those
qualities of love and caring and generosity and
kindness and appreciation you begin to radiate
those kind of qualities into your life.
KING: Is it hard, John Assaraf, to get rid of the
bad person in your life?
ASSARAF: Is it hard to get rid of the bad person
in your life?
KING: Yes, well let's say it isn't working but you
hang on.
ASSARAF: It's very, very hard. We get so
accustomed to our surroundings and our environment
and the relationships that we have. Anytime that
that is a part of our life releasing that is very,
very difficult. We don't like to change our
environment. We don't like to change our
environment at work. We don't like to change our
environment with our relationships. It's very,
very difficult. Anything that we get accustomed to
having in our life is very hard to let go of.
KING: We're doing things a little differently here
tonight. We do have a studio audience and we're
going to take some questions. And we'll start with
Lisa, are you there?
LISA: Hi. My question is how does the law of
attraction apply to relationships because I can
see how you could attract individual goals but
it's harder to see how you could visualize a
specific person that you want?
KING: Who wants to grab that, John?
PROCTOR: You shouldn't put a face on the person.
See yourself with all -- with the person with all
those qualities. You're going to move into that
vibration and you'll attract them.
ASSARAF: I think it's important to understand,
Larry, that, you know, if we go back to the
premise that all we are is energy and that we will
attract everything that we resonate with, so if we
are focusing on what we want in the person with
all the attributes and what he or she has and we
believe with our whole heart and soul that that
person will be found and we allow the universe to
do its part while we, as JZ said, become that
person filled with love and beauty that we are, we
will attract that person.
KING: Michael.
BECKWITH: I think it's clear, Lisa, also we have
to define what relationship is. And relationship
is a joint participation in the good of life or in
the good of God. So, you're not going into a
relationship to get something from someone.
You're going into a relationship to be more
yourself so that you're with somebody this is the
individual in which you get to -- you feel
comfortable being loving, giving, sharing, kind
and forgiving. But if you think you're going to
get something from the relationship, you're
setting up a resistance there already.
KING: Why do we choose often, Bob, the wrong
person?
PROCTOR: I think it goes back to what JZ said. We
don't know who we are.
KNIGHT: We don't know who we are.
PROCTOR: And we're searching for something outside
of ourselves so we see someone and think she's
pretty. He does this, you know. And so, you know,
we're looking to get something there. It's like
Michael said, it's not what you get.
It really comes back, what Stanford taught me he
said, "Get to know who you are." And he said, "And
start to understand yourself and take control over
your life. And until you do that, nothing is going
to work right."
ASSARAF: It's also -- sorry, Michael. It's also a
function of our self image of ourselves so we have
an image, an unconscious image of who we are, what
we believe we can attract, what we deserve, and we
will look for that match in our life as long as we
don't change the internal image in our own mind,
nothing will change.
KING: When we come back, I'll reintroduce the
panel.
And, what if you wish for a million bucks, will
you get it? Find out when LARRY KING LIVE returns.
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ASSARAF: Your past results, OK, do not, do not
represent what you're capable of achieving. Well,
from the age of 13 to about 19, I was involved
with a group of kids that spent a lot of time on
the streets. And what I really wanted to do was
make money. I came from a family who had wonderful
love and wonderful environment but money wasn't
something that my family knew how to make and I
wanted to live a better life.
And, I really took myself to educating myself
about what does it really take to make money? What
does it take to build a company? What does it take
to have a great life? And fortunately for me when
I was 19, I found some wonderful mentors who asked
me some great questions.
And so if you don't believe in your -- if you
really, really, really don't believe in your
product or service, stop doing it. Stop telling
yourself a story that you've got to do it just
because I need the money. I need something to make
an income.
And part of me believed them because they always
told me that if you didn't go to school, if you
didn't get a degree, you couldn't get a job. You
couldn't take care of your family. So, there was
something that was nagging at me my whole life
was, you know, that's what people that I respected
told me, not my parents fortunately but everybody
else said that.
To win in the game of life you've got to focus on
winning the game of life.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
KING: Our panel is Bob Proctor, John Assaraf,
Michael Beckwith, John DeMartini, and JZ Knight.
JZ, you say you treat the universe as a shopping
cart and all you got to do is ask.
KNIGHT: I teach people that.
KING: Ask for $1 million and you get it?
KNIGHT: Well, what I teach people is, is that
money comes as a result of ingenious thoughts,
creativity, because we're born creators, and that
when we create our day and we start out with our
day and say, "This day I will access information
about the future, technology and genius." And
during that day great thoughts come that start you
on a journey of creating something of value that
as a consequence of that you get paid for it.
KING: Money follows.
KNIGHT: Absolutely.
KING: "Time" magazine had an article, "Does God
Want you to be Rich?" For several decades a
philosophy has been percolating in the 10 million
strong Pentecostal wing of Christianity that seems
to turn the gospels on its head. In a nutshell, it
suggest that God who loves you does not want you
to be broke. It's been propelled by Joel Osteen's
four million selling book, "Your Best Life Now."
Does he want you to be rich?
DEMARTINI: Absolutely.
BECKWITH: Absolutely.
PROCTOR: Absolutely.
KNIGHT: Absolutely.
(CROSSTALK)
ASSARAF: But most people don't understand...
KING: What does God care?
KNIGHT: But what isn't God?
KING: Why does God care if you've got $10 or $100.
KNIGHT: Isn't that small? Isn't that cheap?
ASSARAF: I think God cares because we work with
business owners...
KING: Just asking.
ASSARAF: Larry, we work with business owners all
over the world. That's what we do. And the first
thing we tell them is, if you could figure out how
to serve another human being, if you could figure
out how to give them your product or your service,
and figure out how to get that to the masses and
serve them and do well for them, you'll be
rewarded with riches. Why wouldn't God want every
human being to be serve another?
PROCTOR: See, the possession of money is so
ridiculously out of balance. One percent of the
population has about 96 percent of all the money.
We go through school, no one teaches us how to
earn money. We don't learn at home. And we grow up
with the idea you go to work to earn money.
Working is the worst way to earn money. You should
go to work for satisfaction. You provide services
to earn money. You do. Wealthy people all have
multiple sources of income.
BECKWITH: The way I look at it is like this. We're
here to deliver our gifts, our talents and our
capacities, and develop ourself to our fullest
potential and express ourself. Now, the universe,
the power, the presence, the love of God, whatever
you want to call this presence, wants your
structures stable so that God can express more
through you.
KING: Another question from the audience from
Kelsey -- Kelsey.
KELSEY: I love where I work. But I live within my
means. However, each month I'm living seemingly
paycheck to paycheck. How do I value what I earn,
versus the satisfaction I get from working at a
career that I'm passionate about? PROCTOR: I don't
think you should mix them up. You're looking at
your job as where you get your money. Your job is
where you get your satisfaction. Set up different
ways of serving people where you can earn money.
You don't have to be there. You can earn it while
you're sleeping.
ASSARAF: You also can't look at your present
circumstances and allow it to control your
thinking, because then you're going to create more
of the same circumstances. You've got to get out
of that loop and ask yourself, what I do really
want to do, and then follow that.
KING: John, I came into my office today upstairs,
on my door was a vision board.
ASSARAF: We saw it.
KING: It had the kids, it had the wife, it had the
job, the palm trees for retirement. Forget the
palm trees. OK.
And do you -- what are vision boards? I understand
you have a story about this, about the
visualization.
ASSARAF: I do.
Many years ago, I looked at another way to
represent some of the materialistic things I
wanted to achieve in my life, whether it was a car
or a house or anything. And so I started cutting
out pictures of things that I wanted. And I put
those vision boards up. And every day for probably
about just two to three minutes, I would sit in my
desk and I would look at my board and I'd close my
eyes. And I'd see myself having the dream car and
the dream home and the money in the bank that I
wanted and the money that I wanted to have for
charity.
Five years later, my one son Keenan (ph) came up
to my office and he sat on the boxes and said, you
know, Daddy, what's in the boxes? And I said,
they're my vision boards, and they've been in
those boxes for five years. And so he didn't
understand. So I pulled out one of the vision
boards, after opening up the box, and there was a
nice car and another little trinket that I wanted
to buy. And when I opened up, or pulled out the
second vision board, there was a picture of the
home that I was living in right now, that I had
been living in for a year, had renovated it, and
didn't even know -- I swear to...
PROCTOR: He phoned me. He phoned me within two or
three minutes of that. I saw it on the board.
ASSARAF: The house that I live in.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We teach to do that, draw on
a piece of card what it is you want to manifest,
and simply look at it and be present with it.
That's called creating a time trial to the future.
DEMARTINI: Our innermost dominant thought becomes
our outermost tangible reality. When I was 17
years old, I almost died. I lived on the North
Shore of Oahu in a tent. And I had the opportunity
to meet Paul Brag (ph), who's an amazing teacher
who's 93 years old. And he told me to write down
my dreams -- not only for myself, but my family,
my community, my city, my state, my nation, and my
world -- and write it for at least 100 years.
Today, all of these years, 34 years, I've been
master planning my life and one of the things that
I actually dreamed of doing is sitting here facing
you, saying what I'm about to say. So I know that
it works.
KING: If one of you have a vision board with my
picture on it, I'll go to break.
Still ahead, can you make yourself healthy or just
stop smoking just by thinking about it? Find out
more after this break.
DEMARTINI: One day leaving this health food store,
I saw a little flyer on a door, special guest --
guest speaker, Paul C. Brag, Sunset Recreation
Hall, North Shore of Oahu.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
DEMARTINI: The quality of your life is based on
the quality of the questions you ask. And ask
questions inside, pull them out of you. What do
you really love to create in your life?
(END VIDEO CLIP)
DEMARTINI: And that night, I don't know how to
describe it, it's just something came over me and
I said, I know what I want to do. I want to become
like this gentleman. I want to travel the world. I
want to dedicate my life to the study of universal
laws, as he was talking about, and I want to
become a great teacher and philosopher, and step
foot in every country on the face of the earth and
share my research findings with people.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
DEMARTINI: Because if you don't plant the flowers
in the garden of your mind, everybody, you're
going to be pulling weeds out from everybody
else's.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
DEMARTINI: And he said to me, every single day
from the rest of your life, say I am a genius and
I apply my wisdom. Now here I sat there, I'm a
genius, I'm thinking, there's no way I'm a genius.
So I said it over and over again. And he made me
say it until I had my eyes closed and my body was
congruent with it. And he patted me on the
shoulder and says, you never miss a day for the
rest of your life.
And that was the beginning of a journey of
teaching, healing and philosophy. I went on to be
a scholar in school, I went premed honor. I ended
up being a chiropractic because I love the power
and philosophy of chiropractic. And it was just
the most amazing thing, because it believes the
power inside us is what heals
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
DEMARTINI: If you're going through life and you
want to create an amazing life, you better have a
vision that far exceeds that. You want perpetuity,
you want a foundation that goes beyond it, you
want a vision that goes beyond it. There is an
immortal calling in all of us to do something
magnificent with our life, that's way bigger than
our mortal body can see.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
KING: We're back.
J.Z., can you remove an illness just by thinking
about it?
KNIGHT: Yes. I was a heavy smoker, and I was
developing emphysema. Most women like to smoke,
most people that I knew did. And I went and got a
CAT scan, and when I saw the CAT scan of what my
lungs were doing, I knew I wasn't going to be
alive very much longer.
And so I simply said, I'm going to go live
somewhere in my brain where I have always been
well. And in that moment, I simply moved what I am
to a different neuronet in my brain.
KING: How, Michael, do we form the habits we have?
BECKWITH: Just doing something over and over and
over again, oftentimes unconsciously.
KING: But why would we do it, even if we don't
like it?
BECKWITH: Well, it goes back to what we were
saying at the earlier part of the show. You have
genetic programming and then you an environmental
influence. So you end up copying what you see
around you.
DEMARTINI: And many times the very thing we're
doing that we're trying to get rid of,
unconsciously, we have associations of benefits.
We underlying benefits that we're actually...
KING: How about those thing, though, Bob, like,
drug addiction?
PROCTOR: Well, drug addiction is -- it's a habit.
And it can be changed. No, it can be changed. Many
people change it.
KING: A habit that becomes a need.
PROCTOR: Millions of people change it, so it can
be done. Millions don't but there is millions
that...
BECKWITH: Individuals that are addicted oftentimes
are looking for something that they're finding
temporarily, in a counterfeit way, through that
drug or through that momentary high. And your
brain can produce that without the drug.
PROCTOR: See, I think the problem goes back -- we
don't know ourself. We can go right through our
educational system, the best schools in the world,
and come out and know virtually nothing about
ourself.
ASSARAF: There's really two parts of our brain,
One is the conscious mind,, which we now know is
only responsible for only two to four percent of
our behaviors. So we could have the desire, the
want, the need, the passion for change, but
there's another side of our psyche, the
nonconscious mind, that we now know controls 96 to
98 percent of our conditioned way of doing, being,
seeing and behaving every single day.
So you can have the desire, but you this program
running at a nonconscious level that's going to
keep you at your status quo, whether you're a drug
addict, whether you're broke. That's why most
people, Larry, who win the Lottery, for example,
86 percent of them give away all the money, is
because they are conditioned at a nonconscious
level to be broke. Their self-image and their
self-worth is going to dictate their self-wealth.
And that, by the way, I heard from this great guy,
John DeMartini. He's absolutely right.
PROCTOR: If we're coaching people to change, we
have them in a 13 month program.
KING: Does rehab work?
DEMARTINI: It all depends. I go back to the value
system because the hierarchy of one's values
dictates their destiny. And so if they have an
unconscious motive and unconscious value to
continue doing something, all the comments to them
really don't mean anything. They have to have an
unconscious drive to accomplish what they want to
do.
And so what I do, and I have people that are
so-called label addicts, I go in there and ask
them all the benefits that they're getting out of
it and bring the unconscious conscious first. And
when they discover 100 benefits that they're
unconsciously getting out of being the drug
addict, it blows their mind to realize why they're
really doing what they're doing.
KING: Michael, what causes relapse?
BECKWITH: Exactly what he's saying here. The
benefits, the temporary benefits of getting that
momentary high. They haven't yet seen
themselves...
KING: You miss it, so you want it?
BECKWITH: They're craving, the body, the mind, the
chemicals that are being produced. They don't
quite understand that those chemicals, those
endorphins can be produced from a sense of
connection.
KING: But we're in a drug conscious society. Look
at all of the legal drugs to stop your pain, make
you feel better, do this, do that.
ASSARAF: Absolutely.
DEMARTINI: A pill for every ill. KING: A pill for
every ill.
ASSARAF: We've got the best pharmacy in the world,
right here, in our brain.
KNIGHT: It's true.
ASSARAF: No pharmacy can compare with the human
mind.
PROCTOR: There's a genius system built within us
to keep us in excellent working order if we were
to understand it. Understanding is the key.
ASSARAF: We become addicted to the emotions.
KNIGHT: We are addicted to our emotions. That's
the greatest addiction there is.
PROCTOR: You did your show a little while ago. I
was watching where you had the fellow on that took
Proverbs over 31 days.
KING: Yes, Solomon.
PROCTOR: Yes, well. What did Solomon say? He said,
in all your getting, get understanding. And the
opposite of understanding is doubt and worry. The
only way to get understanding is to study, there's
no other way to get it.
KING: We'll be right back. And just ahead, what
are you doing that prevents your own happiness?
Don't go away.
KNIGHT: So I sort of grew up and I -- knowing
every day that if I prayed to God, that everything
that I asked for would always get taken care of. I
just thought everybody did. As I grew into a
mature woman and got married and had children, I
just went on my destiny knowing that there was
something big could happen in my life.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
KNIGHT: This day I love God. This day, the wisdom
and love of God shines through me. It is my
reality. I say that all of the time.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
KNIGHT: All these years, it has been to help
people to understand, first off, that they're
divine, the capacity is inside of them to do
marvelous things, are innate in them, that things
that happen to them, it is not things happening to
them, but the source leaking out of them.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
KNIGHT: All of this, is spiritual because spirit
is thought. It's the intangible ghost of reality
that reality comes from. (END VIDEO CLIP)
KNIGHT: And in creating your day, the first thing
you have to say is, that I'm wonderful, I'm filled
with wonder. I am my greatest mystery. And this
day what I say will manifest and I will experience
the wonder of myself.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
KING: We're back.
What a show tonight. We promise to do more on
this.
Let's take another question from our audience. And
start with Valerie.
VALERIE: Hi. I'm self-employed and staying
focussed and clear- headed about all my goals,
both professionally and personally, can be really
challenging. What's your advice for staying
positive and patient with so much uncertainty in
my professional life?
BECKWITH: It comes down to your practice.
Everything that we've talked about here, it comes
down to the word practice, that you begin to
develop the habit of doing something every single
day in your life. Describe your life and how it's
going to be. Begin to tell yourself that life is
for you and not against you. Begin to be aware
that there's something trying to emerge through
you right now.
Since you are an infinite being and you're here to
progress, there is always something trying to
emerge for you right now. So you're not sitting
around waiting for the New Age. You're on the new
edge. Something is trying to happen.
KNIGHT: And you're wonderful. And everything that
you think matters. So you're worries matter. So
what you have to do, you have to get up, first
thing in the morning and create your day, and say
this day, I'm a genius. Not only am I a genius, I
create a new reality that is fulfilling and
without worry. All day long.
BECKWITH: Practice.
KING: OK, another audience question. And this one
is from Bonnie.
BONNIE: I's like to know how do you change a
negative perception of an aging body and mind into
a positive acceptance of the same age and body and
mind?
KING: You are what you feel?
DEMARTINI: Well, you know, I think we're blessed
because as we mature, our eyesight tends to get a
little bit weakened and our hearing tends to go.
So I think what the universe has done is make sure
that we can't see what we see in the mirror. So
the best thing to do is honor your sight as it
starts to fade and you can appreciate what it
does. No, but every single day it is wise to
concentrate on what you do love about yourself,
instead of focussing on what you don't.
KNIGHT: May I ask you tomorrow morning, if you
want to be 30 years younger, your genes, here
everything you say...
BECKWITH: Absolutely.
KNIGHT: ... you have a code for your entire
attitude. When you wake up in the morning and
decide, today, I am going to be 30 years younger
and fabulous. And if you do that, you start
creating proteins in your self that replicates
that attitude.
KING: Wow.
PROCTOR: Quakers have a saying, pray and move your
feet. I think what you've got to do is get out and
exercise. I went over to a gym, a guy named Eli
Palmer (ph), he took a look at me and he said,
you're just going keep getting bigger and bigger
and bigger around the waist. And I started to work
with the guy, get up at 5:00 in the morning, I'm
in the gym at 6:00 in the morning and work for an
hour. I taken three inches off my waist.
KING: You're all saying happiness is attainable?
PROCTOR: Absolutely.
BECKWITH: Happiness is the natural state of our
being.
KNIGHT: It is a natural state of being, without
fear. Without fear.
(CROSSTALK)
ASSARAF: It's not condition based.
DEMARTINI: I think when we're authentic with our
true values, we have fulfillment.
KING: One more audience question from Bernie --
Bernie.
BERNIE: Hi.
What is the best way to retain a positive attitude
while investing in a volatile stock market?
PROCTOR: Quit investing in the volatile stock
market.
KING: Don't do it.
PROCTOR: And don't do it. Change your behavior.
ASSARAF: Even if you're investing in a volatile
stock market, you've got to keep one thing in
mind, and that's not the stock market. It's your
perception of the stock market. There are people
who invest in volatile stock markets that don't
get affected emotionally by it. BERNIE: Right.
ASSARAF: And so if they don't get emotionally
affected by it, then it's not the stock market.
It's the individual's perception of the stock
market. So when you change the way you look at
something, the thing you look at will change.
KNIGHT: Remember, you create reality. You have it
in you. Consciousness and energy creates reality.
What you think matters. Your opinions help to
affect the whole and your eventual outcome in
reality.
DEMARTINI: If the stock market goes up, you're
paying more dollar per stock share. If it goes
down, you're getting it for less. So there's
blessings on either side. Knowing that both of
them are valuable and staying long-term with it.
KING: I got to get a break.
But Michael, do affirmations work?
BECKWITH: Affirmations definitely work. They help
you keep your attention, allowing that kind of
energy to flow. They're not going to make
something happen, but they make something welcome.
KING: Ahead in our final segment, how you can
jumpstart your new life. Stick around for more of
LARRY KING LIVE.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
KING: We're back with our final moments with our
outstanding panel. We're going to do more of this
and we just brought up a good topic.
I just said the air conditioner's not working in
here.
BECKWITH: And now it is.
KING: And that bothers me. And you said, live with
it. Right?
BECKWITH: No, I said I'm cool. And now it's
working.
KNIGHT: We know how to create a reality.
KING: You just got cool.
KNIGHT: Come to class, Larry.
(CROSSTALK)
KING: You've all written books, right?
KNIGHT: Yes.
KING: Is that the best way for anyone watching to
jumpstart, read one of the books? I mean, what is
-- how do we... PROCTOR: I think the best way to
start is get a CD or a DVD and play it over and
over and over again.
KING: By one of you?
PROCTOR: Well, the best one -- the best thing I
have seen in 45 years, Larry, is the DVD "On the
Secret". To get it, go to thesecret. It was
made out of Australia. It is the best thing I have
ever seen done in this industry.
KNIGHT: I think you would be very simple --
everybody gets up and says, what kind of life I do
want from this day forward? And I'm going to write
it down and I'm going to say this is who I am.
BECKWITH: Absolutely.
KNIGHT: To say, this is who I am. And negotiate
your day through what you said. That's how you
start.
ASSARAF: If anybody wants to have more, whether
it's a business, whether it's more money, they
have to become more. And the only way to do that,
OK, first is to educate yourself. And our society
has gotten lost in teaching children how to
memorize. Education is when we learn something, we
get instructions on how to do something, and then
we experience it. That's really the education that
we want. And so that for me is pick a lane, pick
something that you can choose, to move your life
forward to the next level.
PROCTOR: There is three of us, Dr. Martini,
Michael Beckwith and myself, are going to working
together next week -- is it two weeks -- at SY
Seminars (ph). I don't own the company, but it is
the best course I've ever seen. And it is all up
and down the West Coast, it's in different parts
of the world.
KNIGHT: Our course is the best course I've ever
seen.
PROCTOR: Well, I think the program that...
DEMARTINI: All of our courses are outstanding.
KNIGHT: All of our courses are fabulous.
DEMARTINI: My mother said to me, when she was
putting me to bed when I was four years old, she
said, son, before you go in the dream world, be
sure to count your blessings, because those who
are grateful for that they have, they get more to
be grateful for. And I always say that that's the
best way to start each day and end this day is in
the state of gratitude.
BECKWITH: I'd like to say something about that. I
absolutely agree that it's so powerful. The
enlightened give thanks for what most people take
for granted.
As you begin to be grateful for what most people
take for granted, that vibration of gratitude
makes you more receptive to good in your life.
KING: J.Z., isn't change the hardest and most
feared thing we do?
KNIGHT: It is the most feared thing that we do
because we're afraid of reprisal as a result of
it. But change is a natural order of our being. We
are creating reality every day. We're here to make
known the unknown. It is innate in us, it's a part
of our mechanism, it's a part of how our brain
works. It's what we do best, but it's in a society
that doesn't celebrate that.
PROCTOR: And change is inevitable, but personal
growth is choice.
(CROSSTALK)
BECKWITH: But we are here to change. We are here
to grow, develop and unfold. We are progressive
beings that have infinite capacity.
KING: But we all fear it.
(CROSSTALK)
BECKWITH: We do until embrace the fact that we are
here to grow. So that you say, how you to
jumpstart? You wake up every day and you want to
be different at the end of the day. You don't want
to be the same person you go to bed at night. You
want to have had an insight and a haha, you want
to have done a new action. You would have said
something new, so that you want to see yourself
changing and becoming more yourself on a regular
basis.
DEMARTINI: I was -- I had the opportunity to speak
for Mary Kay Ash (ph) many years ago. And I had
the opportunity to interview and chat with her
afterwards. And I said, Mary, if there's any
advice you could give me -- I was in my 20s at the
time -- for me in my life, what with a you say?
And she said every single morning before you get
and start your day, to sit down and write down the
seven highest priority actions you could do today,
because whoever sets the agenda brings the destiny
about. And I started doing that. And I started
compiling a list of the things that were truly
important to me. And I noticed I increased the
probability of those happening in my life just
because I concentrated and I took...
KNIGHT: And we do them every day. We do that every
day. I do that every morning.
DEMARTINI: At the end of the day, be grate
grateful for all the different things that you
accomplished. Those two things make a huge
difference.
(CROSSTALK)
PROCTOR: ... taught me the same thing. He said six
things, same concept.
BECKWITH: Awareness. Awareness. Choice is a
function of awareness. And he's just described how
you build your awareness.
KING: You have been an outstanding panel. I hope
to do this again. I learned a lot of secrets about
life here tonight. We hope everybody takes
advantage of them.
Our guests have been Bob Proctor, John Assaraf,
Michael Beckwith, John Demartini and J.Z. Knight.
And our subject has been "Beyond the Power of
Positive Thinking: How to Change Your Life".
We hope we've helped you.
Anderson Cooper is the host of -- "AC 360" is
next.
Good night.
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